Dale unpacks some issues of home and place with his guest, Los-Angeles based actor and writer, Vic Michaelis. A bit preoccupied with stuff as he sorts through his father’s house, Dale asks Vic about her relationship to home, and how moving so much as a child may have informed her as a performer. The two talk about crafting new identities and mastering new skills as a means of adapting or fitting in to new situations. Dale and Vic also discuss religion, the appeal of structure, and what might the perfect afterlife look like. Plus a call to help out LGBTQ+ folks, especially youth, who may now be at greater risk of harm due to recent laws and policy directives in Florida, Texas, and elsewhere.