Dale takes a left down portal road for a visit with Los Angeles-based comedy producer Liz Maupin. Taking a break from channeling her energy into an Arizona vortex, Liz talks to Dale about the staggering number of obstacles she’s overcome and the great joy she’s found in producing live events (Funnilingus), podcasts (PA Nation), and short videos (Open Mike Eagle, Demi Adejuyigbe). Dale recognizes some common traits Liz, and the two talk about the reasons they both have been drawn to creating structure, honing in what’s important, and helping others rise. Plus Liz shares a few details of her experience within a nefarious international religious cult and how she’s approaching the trauma of that time through a new creative endeavor. Plus Dale’s a little overwhelmed trying to keep up with daily life.